CNBC 2015 GOP primary debate: on Health Care

Ben Carson: Give people the option to opt out of Medicare

The plan gives people the option of opting out. The annual Medicare budget is over $600 billion. And there are 48 million people involved. Divide that out. That comes out to $12,500 for each one. There are a lot of private-sector things that you could do with $12,500. That's a theme of a lot of the things that I'm talking about. How do we utilize our intellect rather than allowing the government to use its, quote, "intellect," in order to help us to be able to live healthier and better lives?
Source: GOP "Your Money/Your Vote" 2015 CNBC 1st-tier debate Oct 28, 2015

Carly Fiorina: FactCheck: No evidence of 470,000 failures from ObamaCare

Fiorina made the claim that "the bad news is we have 470,000 going out of business every year. And why? They cite ObamaCare."

Fiorina appears to be citing Small Business Administration statistics on the number of small business "deaths" in 2011. This was at least four years before ObamaCare's mandate on employers took effect. ObamaCare does not apply to small businesses with fewer than 50 full-time employees. The SBA defines small businesses as those with fewer than 500 workers. Certainly, some small businesses subject to health reform are straining to adhere to the rules. The National Federation of Independent Businesses is a strong critic of ObamaCare, saying the mandate is hurting their members and not lowering their cost of providing health insurance.

But there's no indication that ObamaCare is costing jobs. Few employers subject to the mandate report changing their staffing or hiring because of ObamaCare, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation/Health Research & Education Trust survey.

Source: FactCheck on GOP 2015 CNBC debate Oct 28, 2015

Carly Fiorina: Small businesses blame ObamaCare for going out of business

Companies should, if they want to attract the best workers, provide a good set of benefits. If you're a small business owner today you are being crushed. We have 400,000 small businesses forming every year in this country. How great is that? They are employing themselves, they are potentially employing others. The bad news is, we have 470,000 going out of business every year. And why? They cite ObamaCare.
Source: GOP "Your Money/Your Vote" 2015 CNBC 1st-tier debate Oct 28, 2015

Chris Christie: Washington runs healthcare as badly as anything else

We have laws already. We don't need more laws. We don't need Hillary Clinton's price controls. Again, does anybody out there think that giving Washington, D.C., the opportunity to run the pharmaceutical industry is a good idea, given how well they've done running the government? So what we do, though, if there's somebody that is price gouging, we have laws for prosecutors to take that on.
Source: GOP "Your Money/Your Vote" 2015 CNBC 1st-tier debate Oct 28, 2015

Jeb Bush: Keep HSAs to encourage savings, as Medicare reform

We need to reform Medicare and Social Security. We can't just allow it to continue on its current path the way that Hillary Clinton wants to do because there'll be major reductions in benefits in the next decade if we do nothing.

I have a concrete plan to do just that, which allows people to keep HSAs to encourage savings, it allows for people that are retiring with Social Security to be able to get a minimum of 125% of the poverty level so that there is a baseline that no one goes below.

Source: GOP `Your Money/Your Vote` 2015 CNBC 2nd-tier debate Oct 28, 2015

John Kasich: Ohio took Medicaid from 10% to 2.5%

In my state, we took Medicaid, the hardest program to control, and we took it from a 10 percent growth rate to 2.5 percent without taking one person off the rolls or cutting one single benefit. We can take many of those same procedures, we can apply it to Medicare. We can make a stronger program. But I agree with Jeb, you can't just do this by growing the economy. You can't grow your way out of demographics.
Source: GOP "Your Money/Your Vote" 2015 CNBC 1st-tier debate Oct 28, 2015

Mike Huckabee: Declare war to cure the four biggest chronic diseases

Why don't we say, "Let's cure the four big cost-driving diseases: diabetes, heart disease, cancer and Alzheimer's"? If you do that, you don't just change the economy, you transform the lives of millions of hurting Americans..

85 percent of the cost of Medicare is chronic disease. The fact is if we don't address what's costing so much, we can't throw enough money at this. We need to declare war on the four big cost drivers because 80% of all medical costs in this country are chronic disease. We don't have a healthcare crisis in America, we have a health crisis.

When I was a little kid, we eradicated polio. You know how much money we spent on polio last year in America? We didn't spend any. We've saved billions of dollars.

You want to fix Medicare? Focus on the diseases that are costing us the trillions of dollars. Alzheimers, diabetes, heart disease and cancer. Eradicate those and you fix Medicare and you've fixed America's economy, and you've made people's lives a heck of a lot better.

Source: GOP `Your Money/Your Vote` 2015 CNBC 1st-tier debate Oct 28, 2015

Rick Santorum: ObamaCare causes anti-competitive consolidation of insurers

What you're seeing in health care is a lot of consolidation, and that consolidation is occurring because of ObamaCare. You're seeing it particularly in health insurance. You've seen Obama try to seed health insurance companies, and they've all failed, I think, except one. Why? Because we have a system of ObamaCare with minimum loss ratios that make it virtually impossible for a small insurer to operate effectively. This was deliberate, to make it so impossible for small insurers to survive.
Source: GOP "Your Money/Your Vote" 2015 CNBC 2nd-tier debate Oct 28, 2015

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