Fox News 2015 GOP primary debate: on Homeland Security


Ben Carson: Don't tie military's hands in terrorism fight, even torture

Q: In one of his first acts as commander in chief, Pres. Obama signed an executive order banning enhanced interrogation techniques in fighting terror. As president, would you bring back water boarding?

CARSON: What we do in order to get the information that we need is our business, and I wouldn't necessarily be broadcasting what we're going to do. We've gotten into this mindset of fighting politically correct wars. There is no such thing as a politically correct war. The left, of course, will say Carson doesn't believe in the Geneva Convention: Carson doesn't believe in fighting stupid wars. And what we have to remember is we want to utilize the tremendous intellect that we have in the military to win wars. And I've talked to a lot of the generals, a lot of our advanced people. And believe me, if we gave them the mission, which is what the commander-in-chief does, they would be able to carry it out. And if we don't tie their hands behind their back, they will do it extremely effectively.

Source: Fox News/Facebook Top Ten First Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

Ben Carson: Our armed forces are at smallest size in decades

We have weakened ourselves militarily to such an extent that if affects all of our military policies. Our Navy is at its smallest size since 1917; our Air Force, since 1940. In recent testimony, the commandant of the Marine Corps said half of the non- deployed units were not ready and you know, the sequester is cutting the heart out of our personnel. Our generals are retiring because they don't want to be part of this, and at the same time, our enemies are increasing.

Our friends can't trust us anymore. You know, Ukraine was a nuclear-armed state. They gave away their nuclear arms with the understanding that we would protect them. We won't even give them offensive weapons.

We turned our back on Israel, our ally. In a situation like [military action after Syria crossed the "redline" of chemical weapons], of course Obama's not going to be able to do anything. I would shore up our military first, because if you don't get the military right, nothing else is going to work.

Source: Fox News/Facebook Top Ten First Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

Bobby Jindal: Name the enemy: radical Islamic terrorism

Unlike Obama, I'll actually name the enemy that we confront. We've got a president who cannot bring himself to say the words "radical Islamic terrorism." Obama loves to criticize America, apologize for us, criticize medieval Christians. How can we beat an enemy if our commander-in-chief doesn't have the moral clarity to say that Islam has a problem, and that problem is radical Islam, to say they've got to condemn the individual murderers who are committing these acts of violence?
Source: Fox News/Facebook Second Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

Carly Fiorina: We get warnings about terrorism, but we must connect dots

It is disturbing that every time one of these home-grown terrorist attacks occurs, it turns out we had warning signals. It turns out some dot wasn't connected, and so the first thing we have to do is make sure that everyone and every responsible agency is attuned to all of these possibilities and symptoms.

We even had warnings about the Boston Marathon bombers, and yet the dots weren't connected. So we need to get on a different mindset.

Source: Fox News/Facebook Second Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

Chris Christie: Balance privacy rights but more NSA tools to fight terrorism

Q: You've said that Senator Paul's opposition to the NSA's bulk collection of phone records has made the US weaker and more vulnerable. Do you really believe you can assign blame to Senator Paul?

CHRISTIE: Yes, I do. And I'll tell you why: because I'm the only person on this stage who's actually filed applications under the Patriot Act, who has gone before the Foreign Intelligence Service court. This is not theoretical to me. When you actually have to be responsible for doing this, you can do it, and we did it, for seven years in my office, respecting civil liberties and protecting the homeland. And I will make no apologies, ever, for protecting the lives and the safety of the American people. We have to give more tools to our folks to be able to do that, not fewer, and then trust those people and oversee them to do it the right way. As president, that is exactly what I'll do.

Source: Fox News/Facebook Top Ten First Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

Chris Christie: I spent 7 years putting terrorists in jail

I was born into a middle class family in New Jersey. My dad came home from serving in the Army after having lost his father, worked in the Breyers ice cream plant in Newark, New Jersey. Was the first person to graduate from college. He put himself through college at night. My mom was a secretary.

I was appointed United States attorney on September 10, 2001. And I spent the next seven years of my career fighting terrorism and putting terrorists in jail.

Source: Fox News/Facebook Top Ten First Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

Chris Christie: Modernize to have 350 ships and 2,600 aircraft

The first thing we need to do to make America stronger is to strengthen our military, and I put out a really specific plan: no less than 500,000 active duty soldiers in the Army. No less than 185,000 active duty marines in the Marine Corps. Bring us to a 350-ship Navy again, and modernize the Ohio class of submarines, and bring our Air Force back to 2,600 aircraft that are ready to go. Those are the kind of things that are going to send a clear message around the world.
Source: Fox News/Facebook Top Ten First Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

George Pataki: Preaching jihad is not protected speech, even in mosques

Q: How far are you willing to go to root out ISIS-inspired terrorists here at home? Would you put mosques, for example, under surveillance? Or is that against religious liberty?

PATAKI: Religious liberty doesn't include encouraging a fellow American to engage in violent jihad and kill an American here. That is not protected free speech. That is not protected religious belief. That is like shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, and that is illegal, and I would do everything in our power not just to go after those who are here who we know who are here, before they can radicalize other Americans to carry out attacks, and it's not just the ones they've arrested. We have to shut down their internet capability. We have to shut down, whether or not they're in prisons preaching or in mosques preaching. No radical Islam that is allowed to engage in encouraging violence against Americans, that is not protected speech. We have got to destroy their training camps and recruiting centers.

Source: Fox News/Facebook Second Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

George Pataki: Freeze government hiring except military & defense

Q: What would be your first executive order?

PATAKI: I defeated Mario Cuomo. In the first day in office, my first executive order, I revoked every one of the executive orders that he had enacted over the prior 12 years. I would do that to Barack Obama's executive orders. But I'd sign a second one, as I did in New York, as well, having a hard hiring freeze on adding new employees except for the military or defense-related positions. I'd sign that executive order. I will do that in Washington.

Source: Fox News/Facebook Second Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

Jim Gilmore: There will be further terror attacks; prepare for a long war

Q: The FBI Director says terrorists recruit behind the cyber walls that are built by American companies like Google and Apple. Do you agree?

GILMORE: I chaired the National Commission on Homeland Security Committee for United States. We warned about the 9/11 attack before the 9/11 attack occurred. I was the governor during the 9/11 attack when the Pentagon was struck. And I'm going to tell you this, we need to use the benefit of our law enforcement people across this country, combined with our intelligence people across this country. We need to use our technological advantages, because what we've warned of is an international guerrilla movement that threatens this country. It's going to happen in this country, there are going to be further attacks. We have to be prepared to defend the American people, prepare them for a long war, stand up for the defense of this country, and stand up for the values of this country.

Source: Fox News/Facebook Second Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

Marco Rubio: Empower V.A. to care more about vets than bureaucrats

Q: What are you going to do for our nation's veterans?

RUBIO: God has blessed America with young men and women willing to risk their lives and sometimes die in uniform for the safety and security of our people. Unfortunately today we have a VA that does not do enough for them. I am proud that last year we helped change the law. We changed the law to give the power to the VA secretary the ability to fire any executive that isn't doing their job. And it is outrageous they've only fired one person to date. When I'm president of the United States, we're going to have a VA that cares more about our veterans than about the bureaucrats who work at the VA.

Source: Fox News/Facebook Top Ten First Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

Mike Huckabee: Military is not social experiment: no transgendered soldiers

Q: The culture of the American military is definitely changing. Women are moving into combat roles. Don't Ask, Don't Tell has been dropped. And now Defense Secretary Ashton Carter recently directed the military to prepare for a moment when it is welcoming transgender persons to serve openly. As commander in chief, how would you handle that?

HUCKABEE: The military is not a social experiment. The purpose of the military is kill people and break things. It's not to transform the culture by trying out some ideas that some people think would make us a different country and more diverse. The purpose is to protect America. I'm not sure how paying for transgender surgery for soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines makes our country safer.

Source: Fox News/Facebook Top Ten First Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

Mike Huckabee: Our B-52s are from 1962; that's pretty scary

We've reduced the military by 25% under President Obama. We've forgotten why we have a military. The purpose of it is to make sure that we protect every American. We've not done that because we've decimated our military. We're flying B-52s. The most recent one that was put in service was November of 1962. A lot of the B-52s we're flying, we've only got 44 that are in service combat ready, and the fact is, most of them are older than me. And that's pretty scary.
Source: Fox News/Facebook Top Ten First Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

Rand Paul: Stop funding & arming allies of ISIS

Q: You recently blamed the rise of ISIS on Republican hawks. You later added, "Everything they've talked about in foreign policy, they've been wrong for the last 20 years." Why are you so quick to blame your own party?

PAUL: First of all, only ISIS is responsible for the terrorism. Only ISIS is responsible for the depravity. But, we do have to examine, how are we going to defeat ISIS? I've got a proposal. I'm the leading voice in America for not arming the allies of ISIS. I've been fighting amidst a lot of opposition from both Hillary Clinton, as well as some Republicans who wanted to send arms to the allies of ISIS. ISIS rides around in a billion dollars worth of US Humvees. It's a disgrace. We shouldn't fund our enemies, for goodness sakes. So, we didn't create ISIS--ISIS created themselves, but we will stop them, and one of the ways we stop them is by not funding them, and not arming them.

Source: Fox News/Facebook Top Ten First Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

Rand Paul: American Revolution was fought over 4th Amendment rights

Q: [to Gov. Christie]. You've said that Senator Paul should be called before Congress to answer for opposing the bulk collection of people's phone records, if we should be hit by another terrorist attack. Do you really believe you can assign blame to Senator Paul?

CHRISTIE: Yes, I do. We have to give more tools to [the NSA], not fewer, and then trust those people & oversee them to do it the right way.

PAUL: I want to collect more records from terrorists, but less records from innocent Americans. The Fourth Amendment was what we fought the Revolution over! John Adams said it was the spark that led to our war for independence, and I'm proud of standing for the Bill of Rights, and I will continue to stand for the Bill of Rights.

CHRISTIE: That's a completely ridiculous answer. "More records from terrorists, but less records from other people"--How are you supposed to know?

PAUL: Use the Fourth Amendment! Get a judge to sign the warrant! You fundamentally misunderstand the Bill of Rights

Source: Fox News/Facebook Top Ten First Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

Ted Cruz: Label the enemy that Obama won't: radical Islamic terrorists

We need a commander in chief that speaks the truth. We will not defeat radical Islamic terrorism so long as we have a president unwilling to utter the words, "radical Islamic terrorism". President Obama, at a prayer breakfast, essentially acted as an apologist. He said, "Well, gosh, the crusades, the inquisitions..." We need a president that shows the courage that Egypt's President al-Sisi, a Muslim, when he called out the radical Islamic terrorists who are threatening the world.
Source: Fox News/Facebook Top Ten First Tier debate transcript Aug 6, 2015

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2016 Presidential contenders on Homeland Security:
  Republicans:
Amb.John Bolton(MD)
Gov.Jeb Bush(FL)
Dr.Ben Carson(MD)
Gov.Chris Christie(NJ)
Sen.Ted Cruz(TX)
Carly Fiorina(CA)
Sen.Lindsey Graham(SC)
Gov.Mike Huckabee(AR)
Gov.Jon Huntsman(UT)
Gov.Bobby Jindal(LA)
Gov.John Kasich(OH)
Rep.Peter King(NY)
Gov.Sarah Palin(AK)
Sen.Rand Paul(KY)
Gov.Rick Perry(TX)
Sen.Rob Portman(OH)
Secy.Condi Rice(CA)
Sen.Marco Rubio(FL)
Rep.Paul Ryan(WI)
Sen.Rick Santorum(PA)
Gov.Scott Walker(WI)
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Gov.Lincoln Chafee(RI)
Secy.Hillary Clinton(NY)
V.P.Joe Biden(DE)
Gov.Andrew Cuomo(NY)
Mayor Rahm Emanuel(IL)
Gov.Martin O`Malley(MD)
Sen.Bernie Sanders(VT)
Gov.Brian Schweitzer(MT)
Dr.Jill Stein(MA)
Sen.Elizabeth Warren(MA)
Sen.Jim Webb(VA)

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