Second Obama-Romney 2012 Presidential debate : on Immigration


Barack Obama: Kids who think of themselves as Americans--they should stay

ROMNEY: The kids of those that came here illegally, those kids should have a pathway to become a permanent resident. Military service, for instance, is one way they would have that kind of pathway.

OBAMA: If we're going to go after folks who are here illegally, we should do it smartly and go after folks who are criminals, not after students, not after folks who are here just because they're trying to figure out how to feed their families. And that's what we've done. For young people who come here, brought here often times by their parents--had gone to school here, pledged allegiance to the flag; think of this as their country; understand themselves as Americans in every way except having papers--we should make sure that we give them a pathway to citizenship. And that's what I've done administratively. Now, Governor Romney just said, you know he wants to help those young people too, but during the Republican primary, he said, "I will veto the DREAM Act".

Source: Second Obama-Romney 2012 debate Oct 16, 2012

Jill Stein: Undocumented immigration massively spiked after NAFTA

GOODE: These agreements that have cost so many American jobs--they need to be renegotiated, with the emphasis on bringing jobs to this country instead of sending them overseas. [And on immigration], we need to preserve U.S. college admissions for U.S. citizens first.

STEIN: First, let's be clear that our jobs took a nosedive because Wall Street crashed the economy, because of Wall Street waste, fraud and abuse. And our jobs went overseas due to NAFTA and other free trade agreements, which Barack Obama has expanded. So, in fact, you know, it's not immigrants that have caused problems in our economy; it's, rather, this predatory economic policies fostered by an economic and political elite. In fact, immigrants did not come to this country lured by jobs. The spike in undocumented immigrants occurred, massively spiked, after NAFTA basically put millions of small farmers out of business, and people were forced to migrate here as economic refugees in order to feed their families.

Source: Democracy Now! Expanded Second Obama-Romney 2012 debate Oct 16, 2012

Jill Stein: Extend DREAM Act beyond age 30

OBAMA: Young people who come here, brought here oftentimes by their parents, have gone to school here, understand themselves as Americans in every way except having papers, then we should make sure that we give them a pathway to citizenship. Now, Governor Romney just said that he wants to help those young people, too. But during the Republican primary, he said, "I will veto the DREAM Act,"

STEIN: We actually want to provide a welcoming and legal path to the immigrants who have always been the backbone of our economy, the backbone of the diversity that makes this country great. And while the president took a very small step forward, this is a very inadequate step to simply provide two-year worker permits to the DREAMers, and basically they run into a brick wall at age 30. We need to actually provide a welcoming path and legal path to citizenship for the undocumented Americans, who are critical parts of our economy and of our communities.

Source: Democracy Now! Expanded Second Obama-Romney 2012 debate Oct 16, 2012

Mitt Romney: Obama said he'd reform our immigration system but he didn't

When Obama ran for office, he said that he'd put in place, in his first year, he'd file a bill in his first year that would reform our immigration system, protect legal immigration, stop illegal immigration. He didn't do it. He had a Democrat House, a Democrat Senate, supermajority in both Houses. Why did he fail to even promote legislation that would have provided an answer for those that want to come legally and for those that are here illegally today?
Source: Second Obama-Romney 2012 debate Oct 16, 2012

Mitt Romney: Support the E-Verify portion of the Arizona immigration law

I did not say that the Arizona law was a model for the nation in that aspect. I said that the E-Verify portion of the Arizona law, which is the portion of the law which says that employers could be able to determine whether someone is here illegally or not illegally, that that was a model for the nation.
Source: Second Obama-Romney 2012 debate Oct 16, 2012

Rocky Anderson: Government and corporations have colluded on immigrant jobs

OBAMA: [Romney] called the Arizona law a model for the nation. Part of the Arizona law said that law enforcement officers could stop folks because they suspected maybe they looked like they might be undocumented workers and check their papers.

ANDERSON: We need to recognize that for decades our government and the corporate sector have acted in collusion, giving a wink and a nod to millions of people to come into this country without legal documentation so that they could fill jobs in certain sectors of our economy. And we owe it to everyone involved never to make these people live in the shadows any longer. We need a compassionate approach, a reasonable approach, not one that calls for the deportation of 12 to 14 million people or to criminalize what they're doing. Those who have lived here legally, otherwise, other than under the immigration laws, need to be given a pathway toward permanent residency and, ultimately, citizenship.

Source: Democracy Now! Expanded Second Obama-Romney 2012 debate Oct 16, 2012

Virgil Goode: Moratorium on green cards until unemployment is under 5%

OBAMA: I want to build on the five million jobs that we've created over the last 30 months in the private sector alone. And that means we change our tax code so we're giving incentives to companies that are investing here in the US and creating jobs here

GOODE: To get jobs in America, neither President Obama nor Governor Romney are focusing on some of the key issues. First issue, we need to eliminate illegal immigration, keep illegals from coming into this country, taking jobs from American citizens. Secondly, we need to have a near-complete moratorium on green card admissions to this country until unemployment is under 5%. We give thousands of green cards per year to working-age persons that come into the US, take good-paying jobs from students that had just graduated. We need to preserve jobs in America for American citizens first. it is one thing we could do right away to have jobs in America for American citizens first.

Source: Democracy Now! Expanded Second Obama-Romney 2012 debate Oct 16, 2012

Virgil Goode: Illegals' presence here steals jobs from American citizens

Q: What do you plan on doing with immigrants without their green card that are currently living here as productive members of society?

ROMNEY: We should give green cards to people who graduate with skills that we need. [But] I will not grant amnesty to those who've come here illegally.

OBAMA: Young people who come here, brought here oftentimes by their parents, have gone to school here, understand themselves as Americans in every way except having papers, then we should make sure that we give them a pathway to citizenship.

GOODE: We need to totally end illegal immigration, rewarding persons who come here with jobs, which the questioner asked about is the wrong way to do it. If you are in this country illegally, stealing a job from an American citizen, I'm going to do all I can to put an American citizen in that job and not somebody that has crossed our border, come into the country and violated our laws. Jobs in America should be for U.S. citizens first.

Source: Democracy Now! Expanded Second Obama-Romney 2012 debate Oct 16, 2012

Virgil Goode: Use entire AZ law as model for US, not just E-Verify

OBAMA: [Romney] called the Arizona law a model for the nation. Part of the Arizona law said that law enforcement officers could stop folks because they suspected maybe they looked like they might be undocumented workers and check their papers.

GOODE: Romney clarified what he said about the Arizona legislation. He was only saying that E-Verify was a model for the country. I say the whole bill in Arizona was a model for the country, and if I'm elected president, my attorney general is going to be supporting Arizona. We will also be supporting Alabama. We're going to stop illegal immigration and stop the coddling and catering that is exhibited by the Obama administration and that will be followed through by Romney.

Source: Democracy Now! Expanded Second Obama-Romney 2012 debate Oct 16, 2012

Virgil Goode: No green cards for foreigners diplomas; US citizens first

ROMNEY: I think that we should give green cards to people who graduate with skills that we need, people around the world with accredited degrees in science and math, get a green card stapled to their diploma, come to the U.S. of A.

GOODE: I am the only candidate that will not be in favor of attaching a green card to a foreign student's graduation diploma. We need to have U.S. citizens first in our American institutions. I've got stacks of recommendations and requests for students in high school level to go to colleges that had been rejected and replaced with foreign students. We need to preserve U.S. college admissions for U.S. citizens first, instead of trying to bring in everyone from every country around the world. It's time for a president to put citizenship first, and I will.

Source: Democracy Now! Expanded Second Obama-Romney 2012 debate Oct 16, 2012

  • The above quotations are from Second Obama-Romney 2012 Presidential debate (at Hofstra University).
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2016 Presidential contenders on Immigration:
  Republicans:
Gov.Jeb Bush(FL)
Dr.Ben Carson(MD)
Gov.Chris Christie(NJ)
Sen.Ted Cruz(TX)
Carly Fiorina(CA)
Gov.Jim Gilmore(VA)
Sen.Lindsey Graham(SC)
Gov.Mike Huckabee(AR)
Gov.Bobby Jindal(LA)
Gov.John Kasich(OH)
Gov.Sarah Palin(AK)
Gov.George Pataki(NY)
Sen.Rand Paul(KY)
Gov.Rick Perry(TX)
Sen.Rob Portman(OH)
Sen.Marco Rubio(FL)
Sen.Rick Santorum(PA)
Donald Trump(NY)
Gov.Scott Walker(WI)
Democrats:
Gov.Lincoln Chafee(RI)
Secy.Hillary Clinton(NY)
V.P.Joe Biden(DE)
Gov.Martin O`Malley(MD)
Sen.Bernie Sanders(VT)
Sen.Elizabeth Warren(MA)
Sen.Jim Webb(VA)

2016 Third Party Candidates:
Gov.Gary Johnson(L-NM)
Roseanne Barr(PF-HI)
Robert Steele(L-NY)
Dr.Jill Stein(G,MA)
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