Ron Paul in 2007 GOP debate at UNH-Durham


On Civil Rights: Use power of presidency to restore habeas corpus

Increasing presidential powers is rather disturbing to me. Don’t we remember that when you sacrifice liberty for security, you lose both? That’s what’s happening in this country today. We have a national ID being implemented right now. We have warrantles searches. We’ve lost habeas corpus. We’ve had secret prisons & we have torture going on. That’s un-American, and we need to use the power of the presidency to get it back in order, in order to take care of us and protect this country & our liberties.
Source: 2007 GOP debate at UNH, sponsored by Fox News Sep 5, 2007

On Gun Control: Let airlines make rules about passenger guns to fight terror

Q: You have said that the 9/11 attackers might have had second thoughts if they’d felt that some of the passengers aboard the airplanes might have been armed.

A: You’re quoting me incorrectly. I said the responsibility for protecting passengers falls with the airline, not the government--and not the passengers. The airline’s responsible for the aircraft and the passengers. If we wouldn’t have been dependent on the federal government to set all the rules, which meant no guns & no resistance, then the terrorists may well have had second thoughts, because the airlines would have had the responsibility. But we assumed the government was going to take care of us. After 9/11, instead of moving toward the direction of personal responsibility & private property & 2nd amendment, we moved in the opposite direction. We turned it over to the federal government. Private industry protects their property all the time. But here is one example when the federal government was involved and they messed it up.

Source: 2007 GOP debate at UNH, sponsored by Fox News Sep 5, 2007

On Homeland Security: Eliminate FBI & DHS; interpret intelligence intelligently

Q: You say that you would eliminate the IRS, the CIA, the Federal Reserve, the Department of Homeland Security, Medicare. You used to want to end the FBI. But if you get rid of the CIA, let alone the FBI, how would President Paul have any idea, any intelligence of what our enemies, foreign and domestic, are up to?

A: Well, you might ask a better question. Before 9/11, we were spending $40 billion a year, and the FBI was producing numerous information about people being trained on airplanes, to fly them but not land them. And they totally ignored them. So it’s the inefficiency of the bureaucracy that is the problem. So, increasing this with the Department of Homeland Security and spending more money doesn’t absolve us of the problem. Yes, we have every right in the world to know something about intelligence gathering. But we have to have intelligent people interpreting this information.

Source: 2007 GOP debate at UNH, sponsored by Fox News Sep 5, 2007

On Principles & Values: GOP will continue losing elections with current Iraq policy

PAUL: [to Huckabee] A few people advising this administration, a small number of people called the neoconservatives, hijacked our foreign policy. They’re responsible, not the American people.

HUCKABEE: We are one nation. We can’t be divided. We have to be one nation, under God. That means if we make a mistake, we make it as a single country: the United States of America, not the divided states of America.

PAUL: No, when we make a mistake, it is the obligation of the people, through their representatives, to correct the mistake, not to continue the mistake.

HUCKABEE: And that’s what we do on the floor of the Senate.

PAUL: No, we’ve dug a hole for ourselves and we’ve dug a hole for our party. We’re losing elections and we’re going down next year if we don’t change it, and it has all to do with foreign policy and we have to wake up to this fact.

HUCKABEE: Even if we lose elections, we should not lose our honor, and that is more important than [electoral gains for] the Republican Party

Source: 2007 GOP debate at UNH, sponsored by Fox News Sep 5, 2007

On War & Peace: People saying “bloodbath” said “cakewalk”: listen to dissent

Q: Your position on the war is pretty simple: Get out. What about trying to minimize the bloodbath that would certainly occur if we pull out in a hurry?

A: The people who say there will be a bloodbath are the ones who said it will be a cakewalk or it will be a slam dunk, and that it will be paid for by oil. Why believe them? They’ve been wrong on everything they’ve said. So why not ask the people who advised not to go into the region and into the war? The war has not gone well one bit.

Source: 2007 GOP debate at UNH, sponsored by Fox News Sep 5, 2007

On War & Peace: Take marching orders from Constitution; not from al Qaeda

Q: [to Paul]: Your position on the war is pretty simple: Get out.

PAUL: Yes, I would leave. I would leave completely. Why leave the troops in the region? The fact that we had troops in Saudi Arabia was one of the three reasons given for the attack on 9/11. So why leave them in the region? They don’t want our troops on the Arabian Peninsula. We have no need for our national security to have troops on the Arabian Peninsula.

Q: You’re basically saying that we should take our marching orders from Al Qaida? If they want us off the Arabian Peninsula, we should leave?

PAUL: No! I’m saying we should take our marching orders from our Constitution. We should not go to war without a declaration. We should not go to war when it’s an aggressive war. This is an aggressive invasion. We’ve committed the invasion of this war. And it’s illegal under international law. That’s where I take my marching orders, not from any enemy.

Source: 2007 GOP debate at UNH, sponsored by Fox News Sep 5, 2007

On War & Peace: How many more lives lost just to save face?

PAUL: [to Hunter]: We have lost over 5,000 Americans killed in Afghanistan & Iraq, plus the civilians killed. How many more you want to lose? How long are you going to be there? What do we have to pay to save face? That’s all we’re doing, is saving face. It’s time we came home.

HUNTER: Let me just tell you what they’ve done. In Anbar Province, we were having 1,350 attacks a month last October. By the blood, sweat and tears of the US Marines out there, we pulled it down 80%. They’ve pulled down civilian casualties 74%. We’ve got 129 battalions in the Iraqi army that we’re training up. That’s the right way to win. It’s called victory. That’s how we leave Iraq.

Q: No matter how long it takes?

HUNTER: If you think we’re going to be there for a long time, you don’t understand the determination of the US Marines and the US Army. We’re going to turn it over.

Source: 2007 GOP debate at UNH, sponsored by Fox News Sep 5, 2007

On War & Peace: Neocons hijacked our foreign policy to invade Iraq

Q: [to Huckabee]: Should we continue the troop surge?

HUCKABEE: We have to continue the surge, and let me explain why. When I was a little kid, if I went into a store with my mother, she had a simple rule for me: If I picked something off the shelf at the store and I broke it, I bought it. Well, what we did in Iraq, we essentially broke it. It’s our responsibility to do the best we can to try to fix it before we just turn away. whether or not we should have gone to Iraq is a discussion the historians can have, but we’re there. We bought it because we broke it.

PAUL: The American people didn’t go in. A few people advising this administration, a small number of people called the neoconservatives hijacked our foreign policy. They’re responsible, not the American people. They’re not responsible. We shouldn’t punish them.

Source: 2007 GOP debate at UNH, sponsored by Fox News Sep 5, 2007

On War & Peace: Talk to Iran like we talked to Soviets during Cold War

Q: Would you go to war with Iran if they developed nuclear weapons and threatened Israel?

A: Well, one thing I would remember very clearly is the president doesn’t have the authority to go to war. He goes to the Congress.

Q: So what do you do?

A: He goes to the Congress and finds out if there’s any threat to our national security. And thinking back to the 1960s, when I was in the Air Force for five years, and there was a Cold War going on, and the Soviets had 40,000, and we stood them down, & we didn’t have to have a nuclear confrontation, I would say that we should go very cautiously. We should be talking to Iran right now. We shouldn’t be looking for the opportunity to attack them. They are at the present time, according to the IAEA, cooperating. I think that we ought to be talking about how to get along with some people that are deadly, like the Soviets and the Chinese and the many others. We don’t have to resort to war every single time there is a confrontation.

Source: 2007 GOP debate at UNH, sponsored by Fox News Sep 5, 2007

The above quotations are from 2007 GOP debate at University of New Hampshire, sponsored by Fox news, Sept. 5, 2007.
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